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Discussion of 12.16 E-mail
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Thursday, 31 March 2016 19:38

Discussion thread for episode 12.16.

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  • Chips

    Hello folks, I know that I am here before everyone else since I'm Canadian and get the episode at 7pm east coast time! I am trying to find something positive in this episode to talk about, but I really can't say too much until everyone see the episode. So I will wait until you all see it to spill any info on this episode. :s

  • Anonymous

    And there you have it......the Callie/Penny love story begins and I hate every minute of it..Penny is so not someone I would see Callie with.

  • Chips

    I know right! Here I am sucked in again after all this time to see the exchange with Callie and Arizona where they are nothing to one another? I am so glad that I just followed on all the chat rooms without watching the episodes because now I am just pissed again!!!! Oh sorry for my out burst! :s Looking forward to seeing more post.

  • MFEO

    WOW...just wow...

  • MFEO

    Hey Chips
    i'm in Canada too so watched early..as soon as Penny said i love you i knew we were in trouble...and when Callie told Bailey she knew from day one she loved Penny I think it's pretty obvious there will be no Calzona re-union.. anyone else watch?

  • Chips

    Hey MFEO, good to know that there are other canunks on here! I am now just looking at some of the comments after taking some time to just try and wrap my head around what Callie said to penny! It just doesn't make sense to me? The only thing that I can come up with is that Callie relationship with Arizona got very hard...everything about it got hard for her...maybe the relationship with penny was easies breeze until now having to introduce her to her daughter, then it became real? She was loving all the great sex without the strings attached...she was free! Not sure if that makes any sense or not just putting it out there. Don't know what else to think?

  • ukfan

    I actually can't see Penny & Callie lasting, I don't think Callie is as all in as she may say. I don't know why but I am feeling more optimistic about a Calzona reunion.

  • MFEO

    really Ukfan? i hope you're right but Callie just seems to go on and on about how Penny is in her head, best sex ever, she missed her, she knew from day one she was the one etc etc...she really seems over arizona to me...and Penny was good with Sofia and seems fine with dating a woman with a kid...i dunno they seemed pretty solid to me... guess we will find out lol

  • ukfan

    Something seems off with callie and penny, seems odd that if callie was all in from day one that it took this long to introduce sofia to her. I do truly think arizona is over callie but I don't think callie realises she might not be over arizona. My hopeful theory is that arizona is leaving to make a fresh start but obviously near enough to see sofia and this makes callie finally realise her feelings but I think it will take penny pointing it out to her. I think this is wishful thinking but I reckon we might get a calzona cliff hanger of will they won't they. I also think I may be on my own on this one as this is shonda after all but a girl can dream right? :)

  • MFEO

    anyone else see that spoiler tweet about Jessica's performance in 12x22 will break your heart?
    wonder what thats about...i wonder if she leaves (least for a bit) and says goodbye to callie and sofia

  • no joke

    Yep, probably so. But I haven't seen the spoiler.

  • Germanfan

    Could you please quote the spoilers about 12x22?
    I'm a very big Calzona fan, so I obviously would like to see them getting back together!

  • no joke

    I have not watched the recording of this episode yet and probably will not after reading the comments. Definitely not what I want to see. Based on previous episodes and the above comments, Callie and Penny seem very artificial to me, and Arizona seems almost ridiculous most of the time. Don't know if it's intentional or poor writing. :huh:
    However...the ratings are still up there at 7.8 million viewers.

  • cool

    Haven't watched but your comments does it for me.
    I officially really don't like Callie.
    I mean, sure people break up but Callie seems to throw it in Arizona's face all the time.

    What adult goes about bragging about the best sex, she's the one etc?

    I'm getting more and more sure of the fact that Arizona is leaving. Kind of like sacrificing her own happiness for Callie's.

    I love Calzona and I would nothing more than have them back together again but the way Shonda is treating Arizona right now I'd rather she found someone else.

    Just waiting for the moment Sofia calls Penny mom and Arizona hears it... That would be a total breaking point in their (Calzona's) non-existing relationship.

    Actually, why don't they just cancel the show!

    Sry, rant over...

  • MFEO

    The weird thing to me is i get the feeling Arizona is ok with Callie dating Penny...she thanked Penny for taking care of Sofia last night. told callie she was fine with Sofia meeting Penny...she seemed genuine to me...and although i don't like it i do think when Callie said to Penny in the closing scene that she was in the same place as Penny emotionally (she didnt want to say i love you in front of Sofia) she did it with conviction...like i said we may not like it but to me it was believable...good acting i guess

  • Anonymous

    I agree MFEO, I think this is Shondas Happily Ever After for Callie. She is taking it slow, Callie and Penny communicate, both Arizona and Callie seem over each other and as much as I hate it I think Shonda will have Callie ask Penny to marry her down the road and have a legal same sex marriage.No thoughts on what Arizona will be up to.We will probably find out she is in serious relationship at some point.

  • Chips

    The thing with this couple is everyone thinks this relationship is not believable....how can everyone be so wrong to say that these two just don't seem like they are a couple that are really into one another? Callie is not all in.....when things don't go her way and she has to work for this relationship I think she will drop penny like a hot potato

  • Anonymous

    Anyone know what the latest synopsis is that is mentioned on Livejournal about Callie possibly leaving?

  • ukfan

    Sara's contract is up this season and we won't hear of her decision until May usually so it's just speculation.

  • ukfan
    Quote:
    Episode 19: "Arizona's Decision could affect her relationship with Callie."

    Episode 20: “Callie tries to make a decision about Sophia’s future without consulting Arizona.”

    Episode 22: What @JessicaCapshaw won't tell you is how she intends to rip your hearts out in episode 1222....that's all I'm going to say

    I'm officially confused!

  • Anonymous

    Yep...me too! I could make up a whole scenario that I would love to see happen but it never would so why bother...

  • ukfan

    I agree, all my theories seem to be wrong. Maybe everyone is right with the while custody battle scenario. Seems odd they have a problem now when for so long they've been on the same page regarding sofia.

  • MFEO

    there's lots of speculation over on LJ that Penny receives a grant and Callie has to decide whether to go with her or not...some figure that might be the season cliffhanger this year...also it mimmicks the calzona sl already done which shonda seems to be doing a lot of this season so who knows...I still have not heard about Penny being signed as a regular but...could just be shonda getting us calzona fans to tune in again next year...just like last year..

  • Anonymous

    Probably...I think they are showing that Callie is not making the same mistakes again...ex.taking things slow, talking things out, listening,etc. Hopefully she will let Penny go and she will stay and be happy for Penny but the way we are always disappointed makes me think "perfect Penny" will stay for Callie. Ugh!!!

  • MFEO

    Ya could be..would be interesting to know if the actress has been signed for next year. do we know how many episodes there are this season?

  • ukfan

    I heard a rumour that was not fully explained saying there is a storyline coming up that mimics a Calzona storyline ... so Penny leaving could well be it. In that case the Callie's decision about Sofia would be choosing to leave but I don't think Callie would be that cruel to take Sofia away from Arizona. So then I guess the Arizona stops Callie (or at least Sofia) from leaving through a custody battle ... be interesting if that is the case as to how each character is going to react. But I don't believe for a second that Callie loves Penny enough to run away into the sunset with her.

  • MFEO

    There are all sorts of rumors that Sarah's contract is up and so maybe she will run off with Penny but i doubt very much she would leave...there are also rumors of a major character leaving but speculation is its stephanie.. Assuming there is a huge custody battle wouldn't that drive an even bigger wedge between callie and arizona?

  • Turtle

    could there be a bigger wedge?

  • Anonymous

    What about Jessica pregnancy..will she be off for awhile when she has the baby...what will they do with that

  • MFEO

    has anyone else seen the descriptions of the next few episodes over on LJ? sounds like maybe Sofia gets sick or something and they disagree over treatment?? very cryptic

  • ukan
    Quote:
    April 28th:
    You’re Gonna Need Someone on Your Side: Stephnaie struggles with boundaries while Callie and Arizona ask their friends for support during a difficult situation.

    May 5th:
    Mama Tried: Alex and April help a pregnant teen through a medical crises, and Callie and Arizona disagree about what’s best for Sofia.

    Interesting ....

  • MFEO

    very interesting...funny that we get no calzona all season and now the last few episodes are very calzona...

  • ukfan

    I find it odd too, obviously saving the best til last!

    Wondering if Arizona's big heartfelt scene in episode 22 is how she is unable to help sofia when she is sick as she isn't biological ... that's if it is a medical mystery storyline.

  • MFEO

    HMMM that's a great guess...i never thought of that.. but i tend to think its more medical now than custody stuff.. i wonder if the sudden increase in calzona is cause the ratings are falling or it this was planned all along...do you think this will re-unite them somehow or just a sl with them as parents?

  • ukfan

    I don't know if there will be a reunion but I reckon there'll be a calzone kiss cliff-hanger. That will probably amount to Penny being in the next season no doubt.

  • Turtle

    laziness if there is one.

  • MFEO

    i hope you're right...i'm just not seeing how that would come about right now...but i'm awful at guessing lol

  • Radiancegrace

    I have been watching the episodes, yet, about a week later. I felt ill watching this last one. I am with everyone that finds Callie and Penny totally unbelievable. It feels surreal watching them in bed, listening to Callie rave about her and then the ending where they seem to be walking off into the sunset with Sofia after the Bailey interaction suggesting Callie envision who she could see next to her cheering on Sofia in the future. Yuck. Weirdest SL going. Absolutely no idea why Shonda would destroy Calzona for this. Cannot for the life of my get my head or heart around it.

  • MFEO

    Ya i'm not sure...i was thinking Penny was a plot device but after Callie tells Bailey she knew from day one that Penny was the one for her and she sees her with her cheering on Sofia etc etc I really don't see how they could suddenly have her realize that she loves arizona...at least not this season. What we know so far is Penny loves Callie, Callie loves Penny, Penny is still around and seemingly still with Callie in 12x21 based on the bts pics..and Shonda hasn't really given us any hints, or hope for Calzona as anything other than friends and co-parents..
    I think the fandom is strong but i think thats it..

  • Chips

    I know right! The only thing this SL has done is to bring a buzz back to the Calzona fan base. This pair is the worst that I ever remember on Grey's...so who is going to cheer for these two? Callie seeing a future with Penny is a slap in the face. What the hell gives?

  • MFEO

    I think Shonda really likes Samantha Sloyan...she has her on two of her shows...and if she likes you she is good to you and if you cross her...she kills you off..
    I think she thinks she has told the Calzona story for now..and that the next chapter would be moving on for both of them which they seem to have done...if she is trying to portray real life she has in a sense..just with a really unpopular character..Is Penny unpopular in general or just with Calzona fans?

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